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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:42 pm  Reply with quote
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Just a few quotes I have happened to stumble upon. I feel they have a lot of impacton today's issues, yet they are quotes from quite some time ago. My favorite is the first one by President Roosevelt. I just ask that you think about what he says, and how our country is today.


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Letter from Theodore Roosevelt to Richard Hurd, January 3, 1919
We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have room for but one language here and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a pollyglot [sic] boarding house; and we have room for but one, soul [sic] loyalty, and that loyalty is to the American people.



The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all other ties, any other history, and himself adopts the vesture of his adopted land.
James Baldwin

Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.
Thomas Paine

The instant formal government is abolished, society begins to act. A general association takes place, and common interest produces common security.
Thomas Paine

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:26 pm  Reply with quote
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It's not a great american quote but it gets the point across. It's funny how he see's it happening and he doesn't even live here.

PHILADELPHIA — Amid tight security and a large turnout of protesters, Dutch right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders told an assembly of Temple University students that Europe and America must fight an ongoing "stealth jihad" that threatens democracy and free speech.

"Where Islam sets roots, freedom dies," Geert Wilders told the students during his 30-minute address organized by a new student group called Temple University Purpose and funded by the California-based David Horowitz Freedom Center, a foundation that promotes conservative scholarship.

His remarks were met by a mixture of applause and boos, and occasionally gasps — particularly when he stated that "our Western culture is far better than the Islamic culture and we should defend it."

He decried as a "disgrace" a resolution co-sponsored by the U.S. and Egypt, and backed by the U.N. Human Rights Council earlier this month, deploring attacks on religions while insisting that freedom of expression remains a basic right. Wilders also criticized President Barack Obama for his efforts to extend a hand to the Islamic world, saying that such appeasement marks "the beginning of the end."

If the spread of Islam continues unabated in the Western world, "you might at the end of the day lose your Constitution," he told the assembly. "Wake up, defend your freedom."

He also touched on common themes in his speeches, including calling for an end to Muslim immigration and referring to the Muslim holy book, the Quran, as "an evil book" that promotes violence and intolerance.

A question-and-answer session was cut short after the tone of the event began to turn nasty, when some in the crowd of several hundred students began shouting jeers. Wilders' security detail quickly ushered him from the room.

"In order to improve our understanding of others, we need to learn," said Alvaro Watson of Purpose, the student group. "We can't fight for something if we only know one side."

Before his remarks at Temple, a public university serving about 34,000 students, Wilders showed his 15-minute anti-Islam film, "Fitna," which juxtaposes passages from the suras, or chapters, of the Quran with images of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, beheadings, shootings and speeches from clerics advocating violence against non-Muslims.

"I think it's completely wrong that someone who promotes racism and intolerance should be given a platform at this university," said Temple student Josh Rosenthal. "It's hate speech disguised as free speech."

Another student, Joseph Rodrigues, said that being able to voice unpopular opinions is a freedom not to be taken lightly. "I might not like what he said, but I think it's important that he be allowed to say it," he said.

Temple officials issued a statement saying the university "is a community of scholars in which freedom of inquiry and freedom of expression are valued."

"We respect the right of our student organizations to invite people who express a wide variety of views and ideas," the school said in a statement.

British officials once banned Wilders from visiting for fear it would spark violence. He successfully sued the government and visited Friday.

Wilders is scheduled to speak at Columbia University in New York on Wednesday.



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said Temple student Josh Rosenthal. "It's hate speech disguised as free speech."



This guy is a genius. None the less my friend, it's still free speech Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:09 pm  Reply with quote
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John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:48 am  Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:39 am  Reply with quote
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Damn...some of my favorite quotes of all time are from Churchill - but I those aren't American at all. Can we start a "Great Quotes - American or Otherwise" thread?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:40 am  Reply with quote
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I think when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody.

Barack Obama


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:58 pm  Reply with quote
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“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” - Barack Obama

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Imadad, had to look up your quote, cause I couldnt believe someone would come right out and say it...... WOW




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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:37 pm  Reply with quote
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[quote="AmericanMuscle84"]
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“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” - Barack Obama

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Imadad, had to look up your quote, cause I couldnt believe someone would come right out and say it...... WOW

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What do you mean? Haven't several people just come out and said this sort of stuff in the past?

In a higher phase of communist society... only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be fully left behind and society inscribe on its banners: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. - Karl Marx

The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. - Vladmir Lenin

Capitalism is using its money; we socialists throw it away. - Fidel Castro

How can we help President Obama? - Fidel Castro

AWESOME!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:02 pm  Reply with quote
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helenyeoman wrote:

AmericanMuscle84 wrote:

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“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” - Barack Obama

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Imadad, had to look up your quote, cause I couldnt believe someone would come right out and say it...... WOW




What do you mean? Haven't several people just come out and said this sort of stuff in the past?

In a higher phase of communist society... only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be fully left behind and society inscribe on its banners: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. - Karl Marx

The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. - Vladmir Lenin

Capitalism is using its money; we socialists throw it away. - Fidel Castro

How can we help President Obama? - Fidel Castro

AWESOME!!!!



Yes, others have said that, but none of them American Presidents. Great quotes Helen.


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