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Olympia God **Joined:** 23 Mar 2005 **Posts:** 7412

imadad2 wrote:

bigstabile wrote:

The only reason I posted in this thread in the 1st place was to point out that he didn't pee on a picture of Jesus and that I think it's pretty silly how worked up you guys are getting about someone who you don't seem to like in the first place.

This paragraph right here tells me it is pointless to continue this discussion. I could care less what the picture looked like, but referring to the picture as a picture of Jesus is the point. (Shakes head in disbelief) Re-read my posts and hopefully it will make more sense. If not, try to have a good day.

Well then why did you start arguing with me in the first place? That was my point from the beginning. Remember when you were peppering me with various scenarios? I've read your posts, I was assuming you were reading mine since you were debating me on my point.

I wasn't attempting to join in on a big discussion. I was pointing out that the only reason it is "offensive" is because people like you and tyler and GDbear allow yourselves to be offended by it. I'll say it again. Larry David pees on a painting and calls it Jesus. It's not Jesus, it's only Jesus because you believe Larry David when he says it is. You are offended because you want to be offended.

I love how you think this somehow ruins my day. Do I have that much of an effect on you that having an argument like this effects you in real life? I guess that speaks to why what Larry David does effects you so much. Let it go man, there are more important things going on.

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Olympia God **Joined:** 09 Aug 2004 **Posts:** 3314

I'm not actually offended by it. My argument that it is unacceptable behaviour regardless of the context. The offense may have been unintended, but I seriously doubt it as Larry David doesn't strike me as someone lacking intelligence. No need for me to boycott - I don't like the show, nor do I particularly like Whinefeld.

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The National News Must be Mistaken as Well

Have a feeling you are arguing for the sake of arguing.

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Olympia God **Joined:** 22 Aug 2003 **Posts:** 4331

Comes on guys. The reason it is all right to piss on a picture of Jesus is because all Chirstians are going to be is offened. Christians aren't going to roit or kill anyone.

It is a safe way to make fun of any one who is religious. Yes anyone, be it is Jew, Muslium or Christian. This tells me more about the people who think it is funny than those who are offened.

Saying this it will not affect my veiwing habits at all. I didn't find Larry David enertaining before this and won't after.

Rev

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Olympia God **Joined:** 22 Aug 2003 **Posts:** 4331

Double post

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If all we have is this earthly existence, the Apostle affirms "let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die." (1 Cor. 15:32)

Olympia God **Joined:** 23 Mar 2005 **Posts:** 7412

imadad2 wrote:

The National News Must be Mistaken as Well

Have a feeling you are arguing for the sake of arguing.

Huh? What's that article supposed to show? That foxnews can find a bunch of people conected to the Catholic Church?. Were you under the impression that I thought you were to only person who is offended by it?

Olympia God **Joined:** 09 Aug 2004 **Posts:** 3314

Rev wrote:

It is a safe way to make fun of any one who is religious. Yes anyone, be it is Jew, Muslium or Christian. This tells me more about the people who think it is funny than those who are offened.
Rev

You're confusing me, what is the safe way to make fun of religious people?

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gdbear65 wrote:

I'm not actually offended by it. My argument that it is unacceptable behaviour regardless of the context. The offense may have been unintended, but I seriously doubt it as Larry David doesn't strike me as someone lacking intelligence. No need for me to boycott - I don't like the show, nor do I particularly like Whinefeld.

Excellent point. Larry David is intelligent and knew what he was doing.
Excellent point. No need to boycott.

Rev

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Getting Buffed **Joined:** 19 Sep 2007 **Posts:** 1176

bigstabile wrote:

TYLER1 wrote:

bigstabile wrote:

TYLER1 wrote:

Fever wrote:

TYLER1 wrote:

Fever wrote:

bigstabile wrote:

Can it be called a painting of Jesus when there is a 100% chance that the subject of the painting was the exact opposite of who it was supposed to represent?

It would be like one of you guys drawing a picture of "me" and pissing on it. You don't know what I look like, so it's impossible for you to paint a picture of me. It's only "me" because you say it's "me". Just like it was only a portrait of Jesus because whoever said it was. I've got news for you, it wasn't really a picture of Jesus and the only way it can be offensive is if YOU treat it like it was. The morons who are offended are the very people giving it the power to be offensive. Otherwise it was just a painting of a white dude with long hair.

Have we really solved all of the other problems that THIS is what we are now getting worked up about? Jesus this is stupid.

Well said!!

...and just to add, it's only double standards when people want it to be.....has everyone forgotten about Borat? Sasha Baron Cohen is Jewish and look at what went on in that film!

No it isn't. If I got the story right of what happened,the guy pissed on the image of Jesus why should we pretend he didn't.

Then at the same time why should you really let it bother you? So what if thats what some guy did on a comedy show...has it effected your faith, has it changed the credibility of what you believe in? No of course it hasn't!

The best way to deal with something like this if you don't like it is to ignore it!

No way fever. Why ignore it? What if he pissed on the image of our President, the outcry of racism and disrespect would be heard on your side of the pond. If people said to just pretend it wasn't Obama...well that wouldn't make any sense.

When I read that Christ Puncher was a fantasy team name on this site, I instantly got disgusted and offended to be part of this place. But I ignored it. I figured bigs had more respect for the other board members than that, and didn't want to mention it. Maybe I should have brought it up in its own thread, but I figure if we got a religion thread rolling why not put it in here.

If he pissed on the image of our president people have the right to be upset because WE KNOW WHAT OBAMA LOOKS LIKE. It would be an actual picture of a person who we can confirm what he looks like. There's no comparison.

It is impossible to have an actual image of Jesus. The only way it can actually "be Jesus" is if YOU believe it is. Larry David was pretending that it was an actual image of Jesus, I don't think Larry David really thought it was an actual picture of Jesus.

It's only offensive because you are letting it be. What don't you understand about that? You are playing right into Larry Davids hands.

Christ Punchers is something from the Simpsons. It's a joke, get over yourself. In fact, if you are offended then I meant it for you.

I figured you meant it for every Christian. You wouldn't have used it if you didn't mean to offend the people who are.

Stupid argument you're making here, and clearly not handling any criticsm of it well.

Well I think you being upset in the first place is stupid, so there.

By the way, which one of us isn't handling criticism well?

Like I said, Christ Punchers is a line from the Simpsons. Homer, Moe, Lenny and Carl were coming up with a name for their motorcycle gang. I thought it was a good funny name for a fantasy football team. IMO, your fantasy football team name is supposed to be offensive. It's part of the fun. I'm not going to punch christ, it's parody. Believe it or not, not everything is a direct shot at Catholocism. Like I said, get over and get a sense of humor. Otherwise shut up, you don't have to fight every battle and cry over every percieved slight.

What I post on here is seldom argumentative, or about being slighted. So no, I'm not shutting up.

There isn't any humor in any of this. Next year you should have a football team name like Jew Puncher, or (any racist name you can think of) Puncher. That would be super funny.

Hey, I'm sorry I called your argument stupid, you handled that pretty stabily. Smile

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Olympia God **Joined:** 22 Aug 2003 **Posts:** 4331

gdbear65 wrote:

Rev wrote:

It is a safe way to make fun of any one who is religious. Yes anyone, be it is Jew, Muslium or Christian. This tells me more about the people who think it is funny than those who are offened.
Rev

You're confusing me, what is the safe way to make fun of religious people?

Remember what happened when the Dutch newspaper published the cartoons of Mohamid? If he had made a joke about anyone other than Christians or Jews he would have had all kind of he!! directed in his direction. Make fun of Chirstians or Jews and you get a free ride. However, I think and this is my opinion that when he had the women come in and kneel because they thought that the painting was crying he was making fun of the attitude of faith that religious people have no matter what the reiligion. Just my opinion.

Despite this I think what you posted earlier is the correct attitude for people to have toward this.

Rev

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Money talks and mine is always saying, "Good bye."

...if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith." (1 Cor. 14:15)

If all we have is this earthly existence, the Apostle affirms "let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die." (1 Cor. 15:32)

Getting Buffed **Joined:** 19 Sep 2007 **Posts:** 1176

Rev wrote:

Christians aren't going to roit or kill anyone.

Rev

You can't speak for every Chrisitan on this one Rev...I can think of some friends of mine who would have this very response if you wizzed on Christ's "imaginary" picture, I dont think they quite get it yet. Smile

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Gym Rat **Joined:** 18 May 2006 **Posts:** 531

1st Amendment "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Hmmmmmm, does anyone see where it says you have the right to NOT be offended? It happens guys, how old are we? We've all been offended, let it go. What makes this so much more important that we have to start arguiing with each other? Because it's religious? So that would make you an activist or extremist, or am I reaching? Sounds crazy huh? Go back and read everything, and then see how foolish it looks.

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Olympia God **Joined:** 09 Aug 2004 **Posts:** 3314

I don't see this as a religious issue per se, it is about what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. Just because you have entrenched the right to free speech, does not make it acceptable for people to make statements or enact scenarios that offend large segments of the population. This is more an issue of morality and it seems to me the majority of people would find this comedic bit to be immoral and therefore unacceptable in a civilized society.

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Never mind, this is stupid.

There are more important things then Larry David being depicted as accidentally spraying some pee on a painting.

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